If you aren’t using plurk yet, then you most likely will want to make the jump after this post, because you are missing out on all the next wave of discussion, drama, and divas.
In the real world, a man can get arrested, put in jail, and made to register as a sex offender for as long as life for sexual battery if he rubs up against a woman’s breast in a crowded bar. It could be intentional, it could be unintentional, but if the court deems it as unwanted contact, then the man can be tried, convicted, and sentenced for that crime. Obviously things tend to break down and get a little fuzzy when you are dealing with virtual environments. It seems that some believe it is socially acceptable for a man to have a sexual fantasy of lesbian sex, role play as a woman, and then try to initiate sexual relations within the context of every thread that he touches. If the person is believed to have achieved a certain level of publicity, then at that point they can attempt to hide behind past recognition, as an excuse as to why they can get away with their behavior.
I have been personally contacted by 6 women (of which I refuse to list names but they know who they are) who have at some point in time been on the receiving end of sexual overtones such as those shown here. The one thing they have in common, is that they were all initiated by the infamous CodeBastard Redgrave, or Codie as she likes to be known in plurk. I am not dismissing any of the accomplishments that Codie has done in world, no matter how sick I get of hearing them recited every time she gets in a verbal sparring match with someone. I haven’t spent a lot of time with Codie in world, so I am largely biased by the version of her personality that I see portrayed on plurk. The question at hand, is if it is ethical to throw yourself at every woman in plurk who speaks with you knowing full well that some are very responsive to it, while others are not going to be as receptive?
Many women are intimidated by the public forum, and afraid to just say, “No,” out of either shyness or a fear to make waves in what is a relatively small close knit group of SLers on plurk. Does that then justify the overly aggressive actions of one Avastar of 2007, who also made the machinima cam (which I have never used to make my machinima, but I am sure helps the noobs who are getting started filming)?
It appears that one woman’s boyfriend got a little upset, and decided that he was going to jump into a thread and try to make his point be heard.
Here is the plurk that got me started, which has been shortened somewhat, and I added the italics with the commentary:
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Initial Plurk:
CeN says I really want to meet and hang out with a bunch of you in SL, you guys feel like friends for real:
Innocent ramblings:
21:46 CeN says even if we only “talk” via plurk
21:46 HarleyQuinn says i’ll sniff you again
21:51 CeN says last time we met was pretty funny actually
21:49 Codie even me? *makes puppy eyes*
21:53 QuillowC is up for that
21:50 CeN says of course codie even though I did get to fangirl observe you twice from a quiet corner
21:52 Codie giggles.. oh nuuuuu im just little people, don’t go fangirl on me! let’s go shopping instead XD
21:53 CeN says I snuck up really close during your Rouge opening to peek at you
21:56 HarleyQuinn says lol codie is fun to hang out with.. just the other night she was perched on a column at my house
22:02 Codie hahahaha i was Nimil and i actually had fun being with you guys even if i was boring and photoshopping XD
22:01 Codie did you CeN? did you take smutty pictures and sent them to the Herald? mmmmm? *giggles
22:06 CeN says LOL no I was too busy checking out half naked SLebrities dancing. Nothing like seeing your idol naked or half naked to make your day
22:08 Codie LOL
22:08 Chestnut Daughtry was naked at Rouge? What?
22:06 CeN says nope but I got up close and personal to my girl-crush and she was close to naked
22:09 CeN thinks Daughtry
Enter Upset Boyfriend:
22:09 Sands says Are there any celebrities on SL that have got attention due to their talents and not them pulling their panties off at sight of a crowd ?
22:10 HarleyQuinn thinks CeN needs to be less shy
22:10 Chestnut Sands I would say yes. Many.
22:08 CeN says quite a few Sands, most in fact
22:10 CeN says it was a lingerie party, and I got to see someone I admire greatly for her talents wearing lingerie, which was cool made her seem “normal”
22:14 CeN says approachable and just a reguarly person like the rest of us
22:15 Sands says http://www.plurk.com/p/41k65#response-3203… thats more what I was talking about
22:16 Sands says I love and cherrish talented people, I have been lucky enough to come across many of them online and rl and learn so much from.
22:17 Sands says but i carry absolutely no respect for those that grab attention by pulling their pants down.
22:13 CeN says Sands, please, not here ok?
22:30 Bella thinks people need to skip plurks that bother them. It’s all in good fun.
22:27 Bella is lucky she has gotten to meet many wonderful Plurkies in SL. Including CeN!!
22:33 Miss Bettye keeps her mouth shut
22:34 CeN says don’t worry Bettye
22:32 Sands says I’m not gonna say anything since Cen asked me not to. to each their own.
22:35 CeN says thank you Sands
Hawks of course has to stir the pot and try to make a point:
22:34 HawksRock says I would just like to say, that to the extent Sands is saying, some people attention whore through just trying to be all about sex…
22:34 HawksRock says then I agree completely. Slex is a cool thing, but when you are trying to jump on every person on plurk, that is wrong, because often it
22:35 HawksRock says unwanted, and unwarranted by the recipient
22:36 HawksRock says I get that a lot of guys like lesbian sex, but to play a woman and then jump every woman, is carrying it a lil far…
22:39 HawksRock says okay, I will shup now…
22:37 Washu I personally would like to be respected for what I do in SL, but not be judged if I do at any time decide to prance around SL naked.
22:37 Washu We have met before CeN but it was mostly for business and I was busy
22:34 Washu So I am sorry if I seemed flighty or mean or anything!
22:41 CeN says well… LOL… Washu it was great meeting you even if it was just brief and business, we’ll meet again I’m sure
22:41 Miss Bettye says thank you Cen and I agree with you Hawk.
22:41 HawksRock says oh, and I would love to hang out with Cen… but I might get in trouble for speaking my mind…
22:42 CeN says no never HawksRock, it’s not about speaking your mind, there is just bleh… lots of other stuff and Sands knows why I asked him to hold
22:42 Miss Bettye says lol
22:43 HawksRock says sok, I think I will go blog it… cuz that’s how I roll…
22:40 CeN says Sands if you want go for it, not for me to ask you to hold back I’m sorry that was wrong, I just wanted a nice friendly plurk
22:41 Miss Bettye wonders about it
The I’m more important than you:
22:49 Codie feels a bit sorry for Sands. i surely got SLeb because i pull my panties down.. of course.
22:53 Codie surely have no talent that can justify her Avastar of 2007 award.
22:51 Codie surely cannot script like a pro and happened to make nice products, and surely cannot do SL photography and decent post-processing.
22:54 Sands says Codie I don’t care who you are, but my life and relaitonship is a doormat for absolutely nobody
22:54 Codie and when did I step on you, Sands?
The argument loses focus as the attacks become personal:
22:55 Sands says You have an unattractive AV, dressed horrible (i work in fashion irl) and you cyber like a 15 year old virgin.
22:55 Sands says You need to realize who I am, as far as online “celeb” image goes, there are more people that know me than there are people here on plurk
22:56 Codie oh my god *chuckles*
22:56 Sands says i just mind my own business and don’t bring up my image. I don’t walk around and cast my image on people.
22:56 Codie and you are currently not doing exactly that?
22:56 HawksRock thinks that on Codie’s grave, it is going to read here lies the Avastar of 2007.
22:56 Sands says You have absolutely no right to talk to my girlfriend the way you did on that plurk page.
22:57 Codie and who is your girlfriend exactly?
22:57 Sands says If you feel like being the server whore, go for it. Though next time you feel like you have the right to tell my girlfriend to
22:58 Sands says go down on you publicly, be ready for me to express my thoughts publicly about you
22:58 Sands says frankly, you think taking a couple of pictures and posting them online takes talent ?
22:58 Codie i still don’t know who exactly your girlfriend is
22:58 Sands says only thing seperates you from the rest of the people on sl is you have trouble keeping your panties on when there is a vrowd
22:59 Sands says *crowd
23:00 Sands says LOL Hawks
22:57 Codie if you mean your GF is Quaintly, she never stated that fact when she willingly participated to that plurk
23:01 Sands says Meara
23:02 Codie Meara never stated to me she was involved with anyone either. if its the case, i sincerely apologize
23:02 Miss Bettye clicks ‘block’
23:02 Alicia get nervous and screams “Look what I can do!”
23:02 Sands says I don’t need an apology from you.
23:03 Miss Bettye says Alicia
23:04 Codie i give it to you anyways, because i dont play with anyone that is involved in a closed relationship. im truely sorry.
23:03 HawksRock is going to call Jellybean to make sure she doesn’t miss out on the fun.
23:06 MoiraC says awww….plurk has been great for making friends!
23:07 Codie i thought so too Moira, but i’m having second thoughts
23:08 HawksRock says Codie, the reality is that you jump every woman on here, and many of em are not comfy with it. I know this first hand.
23:08 Sands says btw Codie its a shame you are from Montreal, Montreal is known for its trends and fashion
23:05 HawksRock says most are not willing to make a stir about it, because they don’t want to create any ruckus, but I could list 6 off my head right now
23:08 Codie if they were not comfortable, why would they participate?
23:09 MoiraC hugs Codie aww hun….Im sorry! *snuggles*
23:09 HawksRock says they don’t, honestly…
23:06 Sands says exactly hawk, some are afraid to speak up because of “public image” but this she knocked on the wrong door
Unfortunately, things deteriorated and ended up with his girlfriend outing him for encouraging threesomes, and for not being supportive of her, then a public breakup, followed by a reuniting and circling of the wagons. I mean who really need sitcoms? I’m not sure that the fallout changes my initial point though. Are unwanted sexual advances somehow socially more acceptable in a virtual space, than they are in RL?
You tell me. Now commence with the we ❤ Codie propaganda, because I have no doubt that Codie has lots of redeeming qualities, but I am commenting solely on the public overload of sexual overtones which I have witnessed first hand as being handed out like beads at mardi gras. I know it has made my friends uncomfortable, and I also know that many more have been discussing it offline as being pretty repugnant at best. What do you think?
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